Monday, October 09, 2017

JOHN CHUCKMAN COMMENT: SILLY STORY ABOUT COMPARING VIKINGS AND NAZIS - WHAT ACTUALLY WERE THE BARBARIC VALUES HITLER HELD AS PART OF HIS FAITH? - WE SADLY STILL SEE ASPECTS OF THESE VALUES FROM AMERICA AND ISRAEL



CHUCKMAN COMMENT POSTED TO AN ARTICLE IN THE INDEPENDENT


Vikings were not Nazis, anti-racists tell Swedish white supremacist groups
'White nationalists don't get to reinvent what Viking culture is,' says campaigner


Who thinks he can speak for the Vikings?

This is ridiculous.

They were not a people who left detailed records.

As far as the Nazis, they represented a self-declared form of new primitivism and barbarism.

Hitler openly admired the barbarism of earlier times, at least as it is represented in myths and legends. He of course was a great admirer of Wagner's operas.

He regarded barbarism, at least as organized under the oversight of a man of destiny, as he very much saw himself, as a form of strength.

Of course, it was not quite a complete form of barbarism because so far as we understand early barbaric societies, they did not wear uniforms or march in organized fashion.

And the story of his rise to power, complete with its street fights and thuggery, would have tended to validate his beliefs.

Germany of the 1920s-early 1930s was chaotic with gangs of every description out on the streets fighting opponents. Left and Right behaved this way. Many had uniformed corps such as Hitler's SA or Brownshirts.

He believed it was weakness to embrace modern conventions of morality and ethics and civility, only pretending to regard them in various situations as a political convenience. Christianity was very much viewed in this light, but politically he understood he could not openly fight with all the churches. He saw Germany as evolving away from Christianity.

Aspects of his kind of beliefs are still with us in many forms and variations. We see them often in the United States and in Israel in many government activities from threatening others to just taking things you want from others or to invading any country you don't like.