Friday, June 17, 2016

JOHN CHUCKMAN COMMENT: WRITER ASKS WAS ORLANDO WORTH IT FOR THE FREEDOM TO CARRY A GUN - JUST SOME OF THE SICK STUFF COMING OUT OF ORLANDO -NONSENSE ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT


COMMENT POSTED TO AN ARTICLE BY NASH RIGGINS IN THE INDEPENDENT


"Was the Orlando shooting worth it for the freedom to carry a gun?"

I'm sorry, but that's pretty close to sick.

You are twisting a hideous event - in its nature, much like a random strike by lightning - to make a political point.

And your facts are not even right.

"The Second Amendment of the US Constitution clearly outlines the right of all Americans to own a weapon."

Simply not true. 

It authorizes holding of guns for " a well ordered militia."

In the 18th century, this was the inexpensive way for a government to be prepared for attack, just as we see in Switzerland. It wasn't even an American idea. It was adopted from Britain, which, for long periods, since the time of Elizabeth tried to minimize state costs of defense.

And the majority of the "Founding Fathers" did not believe in the concept of a standing army (they wouldn't even recognize today's America).

 "But that particular piece of legislature [sic] was created in a time of immense instability..."

Wrong on all counts. It wasn't just legislation, it is part of the "Law of the Land," the written Constitution which supersedes all other legislation and which can only be changed in a long and costly fashion, even when the will exists to change it.

There was no special instability at the time of the Constitution's being written, which was long after the War of Independence was over.

You really should get your facts straight before writing an argument.

And while I criticize your words, I am not a gun supporter.
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A few really dumb comments below, including some about the Second Amendment which could easily have been avoided by reading what it is you are talking about. Amazing how that works.

The facts of The Second Amendment are:

"One version was passed by the Congress, and a slightly different version was ratified.

"As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives, with the rest of the original hand-written copy of the Bill of Rights prepared by scribe William Lambert, the amendment says:

"'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

"Here is the amendment as ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, then-Secretary of State:

"'A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'"