JOHN CHUCKMAN COMMENT: I DO BELIEVE OBAMA FORMED A "GET-TRUMP" TASK FORCE - BUT AMERICA HAS FAR DEEPER PROBLEMS THAN WHAT THAT REPRESENTS FOR LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT - WHY, EXCEPT IN MATTERS OF STYLE AND CIVILITY AND TASTE, IT GENUINELY MAKES LITTLE DIFFERENCE WHO IS ELECTED PRESIDENT - THE OFFICE SIMPLY DOES NOT POSSESS THE POWER SO MANY BELIEVE THAT IT DOES

John Chuckman


EXPANSION OF A COMMENT POSTED TO AN ARTICLE BY PHILIP GIRALDI IN RUSSIA INSIDER


“Did Obama Order CIA to Form 'Trump Task Force' to Throw Election for Deep State?”


Yes, I do think something along those lines did happen.

People like the CIA Director never come out in public on their own the way Brennan seemed to do.

Of course, just as in the case of a President's nodding approval of matters like coups abroad, no written record would be kept of Obama's approving such an operation.

An operation against Trump would be a suitable farewell from a President like Obama who displayed in office an addiction to secrecy and the approval of huge amounts of disruption and violence abroad.

(I’ve speculated before that Obama may possibly have been CIA himself. There had been previously “a made man” in the White House, George H W Bush, a man whose CIA credentials are unmistakable.

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I want to be clear that while I share a belief in such a scheme with many Trump supporters, I share absolutely nothing else. I regard Trump as a repulsive and ineffective man, a terrible, counterproductive representative for his country, and I can at least understand why establishment interests might want to interfere with his election.

It is, anyway, a serious question whether any American President still does decide matters around the fundamental course of the nation, especially since Kennedy had half of his head blown onto the streets of Dallas after trying to do so against an establishment grown very powerful and arrogant during its long period of unquestioned operations in America’s postwar years.

What a President actually decides anymore in weighty matters of state and international affairs and what he smilingly just signs off on as “recommendations” from the Dark State are not clear matters at all. And I’m sure that they are intended not to be clear, that illusions are to be maintained.

Yes, there are certainly differences in language and emphasis and attitude allowed among presidents, but there is a deep, connecting vital tissue in all their important acts. The differences between a good deal of the actual work of Bush and Obama and even Trump abroad are not so great as people would like to think.

The establishment does not like Trump, but in much of foreign affairs, at least where enemies and opponents and rivals and wars are concerned, it has managed to keep him on what it regards as the right path. They can have no serious complaints.

However, his natural-born crudeness has been abrading away at certain other longstanding arrangements. He has irritated and offended a lot of old friends and allies and connections in the world. That fact could well be an underlying basis for impeachment efforts. If so, the impeachment will succeed.

The days of believing that a person's simply being elected to office should decide the direction of things for America do seem distant and rather naïve, almost quaint, now that the country has become a gigantic global empire with countless trillions of dollars at stake.

A little like thinking in terms of men in frock coats and wigs still signing off on matters with quill pens, but a lot of Americans do live with illusions of one kind or another concerning government and how it works.

It is not hard to find thousands of almost embarrassing references on the Internet to The Republic and Armed Patriots and Rights in the Age of America’s NSA State. Just as with religious belief, where we can find millions in the 21st century who believe in miracles and see important parts of life as bookplate illustrations from an edition of the King James Bible.

But even the security-services people, despite their limitless resources and ruthlessness, still do sometimes get things wrong. We see bungled coups and wars abroad and bungled plots at home.



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