Saturday, January 27, 2018

JOHN CHUCKMAN COMMENT: ON HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL DAY - WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO REMEMBER - WHY YOU CANNOT ACTUALLY REPEAT HISTORY - EXTREMISTS OF EVERY KIND - THE MASS KILLING OF THE NEOCON WARS



COMMENT POSTED TO AN ARTICLE IN THE INDEPENDENT


Holocaust Memorial Day 2018: 92-year-old Kindertransport survivor warns about politics of division
'Lessons have not been learnt in the 20th century. As far as the 21st century goes, we seem to not only have not learnt the lesson but are on track to copy it'


“Lessons have not been learnt in the 20th century."

Absolutely right.

Just look at Israel and the concentration camp it runs in Gaza.

I'm not sure human beings are advanced enough to learn anything of the kind.

Chimpanzees with big brains.

And we know now from animal researchers that chimps are quite murderous.

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Response to a comment about dangers of the extreme Right:

Au contraire.

Extreme anything.

The Left is just as capable of horrors as the Right.

The Right had Hitler.

The Left had Stalin.
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Repose to a comment saying thousands of Jews were leaving France for Israel:

Thousands leaving?

I don't think so.

That's a commonly repeated nonsense.

Of course, the violent, ugly prime minister of Israel has, against all standards of appropriate international behavior, actually travelled around France actively seeking people to come to Israel and leave France.

He did so on his uninvited and unwanted visit following the events of Charlie Hebdo.

But you would have to be a mighty foolish person to leave a country like France to go to a place like Israel, which is little more than a garrison state.
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Response to a comment citing the old cliché about being condemned to repeat history:

George Santanyana's saying is much over-quoted and, despite a superficial appeal, is actually quite incorrect.

Humans simply always do the same human things because they are human.

And, most importantly, there is no such thing as a true repeat of history.

Herodotus had it right twenty-five hundred years ago when he said history was like a flowing river where you could never dip your hand into the same place twice.
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Response to a comment:

Yes, indeed, and I'm glad you included, along with the Palestinians, Syria and other places.

The Neocon Wars since the time of Cheney-Rumsfeld-Bush have likely killed about 2 million people.

They have sent several million running for their lives as refugees, too.

Arabs, of course. Muslims, mostly, of course.

And what has all that violence been about?

Tyranny? Nonsense. The US and Israel love tyrants who know their place – Mubarak, el Sisi, Salman, Abdullah, al-Sabah, Al Khalifa, etc, etc.

Democracy? Where do you see that, including in Israel where they want only one kind of person?

No, the Neocon Wars are a kind of geopolitical cleansing operation of the region around Israel. The creation of a vast cordon sanitaire.

Once prosperous and well-run nations like Libya and Syria are simply left in ruins by America.